It has been a torrid start for the two north east teams in the Premier League so far this season. Both Sunderland and Newcastle look destined for the Championship next year.
Sunderland has been flirting with relegation for many seasons, and this could be the year they drop. Newcastle spent close to £50 million this summer so the blame can't be put down to Mike Ashley solely.
Six games in and both teams have an identical record 0 wins, two draws and four losses.
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A frightening statistic for Newcastle fans is that before the Watford game, in which the Magpies lost 2-1, they had had just three shots on target this month.
All of these coming from right back Daryl Janmaat who is now their top scorer with two goals this season.
However, Sunderland's problem seems to be lying in defence. The signing of Younes Kaboul seemed a wise move by Dick Advocaat. But the French central defender has been in shocking form in the majority of Sunderland's six games.
Since Alan Pardew left Newcastle for Crystal Palace, they have been on a steep decline. When managing at the Magpies, Pardew was known for getting results against the big clubs because he would set his team up to score early on and defend.
However, Steve McClaren's different management style is proving unsuccessful thus far for the Toon Army.
Transfer window errors
The January transfer window is crucial in both clubs bid to stay in the Premier League.
Newcastle's biggest mistake in the transfer window was going for players like Aleksandar Mitrovic. Buying a young, relatively unknown striker from Anderlecht was always going to end badly. His disciplinary record has cost his side dear already, just six games in.
It's amazing that Charlie Austin, a proven goalscorer in the Premier League last season has been overlooked by so many clubs, not just Newcastle and Sunderland, in favour of inexperienced foreign talent.
Newcastle and Sunderland fans: What do your sides need to do in order to survive the drop this season? Give YOUR opinion in the comment box below