Much has been made of the blood-filled finished between Randy Orton and Brock Lesnar at SummerSlam this year, and it seems that wrestling legends are still taking about the controversial ending.
In an era where the WWE snuffs out blood as soon as possible, watching it pour out of Orton's head following a stiff elbow from Lesnar was quite the image.
The match was finished via TKO - an extreme rarity in the WWE - and The Beast Incarnate was adjudged to have defeated The Viper.
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ECW was a company that thoroughly enjoyed some spilled blood before they closed their doors for the first time in 2001.
Tommy Dreamer was at the forefront of that hardcore movement and during a recent interview with Ring Rust Radio, The Innovator of Violence explained why there is nothing wrong with a little bit of blood, even if he wasn't crazy about the climax of the match.
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"Fabulous question by the way. I want to bleed right now just while answering it. When I shot a tweet out after that happened, I never saw so many responses and so many retweets. For WWE, when everyone is blood tested, just like in the UFC, they can allow blood.
"Not my company. I remember when I was there in the beginning of the year, my TLC match, which was a tables match, was sponsored by Zales. SummerSlam was sponsored by Toys “R” Us. If not one person paid a ticket to see WWE SummerSlam, Vince McMahon would still make money because Zales and Toys “R” Us are paying a lot of money to be advertisers. They wouldn’t pay a lot of money if nobody came to see them, but think about that. I am sure Geoffrey the Giraffe does not want to see a bunch of bloody wrestlers or people sponsoring the type of stuff.
"There are two sides to every coin. Me personally, if UFC doesn’t stop it, if boxing doesn’t stop it, let guys go out there and do it if it’s accidental blood. Back in the day of blading, I don’t think there was anything wrong with it. On the independent level, if guys are not blood tested, it should never happen.
"Just like a chair shot to the head should never happen in 2016 because we know more about today with concussions then we did back then. To answer your question, I felt the finish was very flat and it made SummerSlam talked about more in a negative light than a positive light."
If the goal was just to get everybody talking, then Vince McMahon's vision has worked a treat.