People are still talking about Sami Zayn’s heel turn.

He who signed with WWE back in 2013 after finding success on the independent scene under the name El Generico. He alongside former WWE Universal Champion Kevin Owens had some great matches while outside of the WWE bubble and in a WWE ring.

While in WWE’s developmental brand, NXT, he had some classic matches and rivalries that involve Neville and Owens. His last match under the NXT banner came last year at NXT Takeover: Dallas when he wrestled Shinsuke Nakamura, which marked Nakamura’s NXT debut.

WWE fans have not forgotten the run of success that the former NXT Champion had as a babyface while NXT. There are many fans out that there that still see great potential in him to be a top guy in WWE.

However, WWE Chairman Vince McMahon and the WWE creative team have yet to book him as that. Rather, he is a mid-card talent that hasn’t resulted in him reaching the top of the ladder just yet while on the main roster.

Since he was called up to the main roster nearly two years, WWE has booked Zayn to be a strong babyface in the mid-card.

However, he has yet to win a single title on the main roster. He also has not been given the chance to get into the main event scene. Online fans continue to defend him and voice their opinion on the fact that WWE needs to book him better. However, it appears that Zayn’s hard work has paid off.

Zayn turned heel at the recent WWE Hell in a Cell PPV (pay-per-view) event by helping Owens defeat Shane McMahon inside the Hell in a Cell structure. Zayn was recently a guest on E&C’s Pod Of Awesomeness.

During the podcast, he spoke on a wide variety of topics about his wrestling career. Sami shared a bit of insight into his relationship with Vince McMahon, saying that it has grown since being involved in the major storyline with Kevin Owens and Shane McMahon. Here is what Zayn said about his relationship with Vince:

“My interactions with Vince have been a little more limited because I haven’t been in as many prominent storylines. Now, this is something that I feel like he has sunk his teeth into. Just to get to pick his brain a tiny bit about how he views the character.”

“He didn’t even get into detail. Some of it he would just say smile out there. I’m like really? Smile? And then I would do it, and I’m like oh man, of course… It’s so much more heat than just going out there and scowling and being like: ‘you did me wrong’, yeah whatever, you’re angry, cool. Everyone is angry. But if you are smiling, it is so much more obnoxious and so much more dislikeable. It is such a simple thing. Once you execute it and it works, it’s just another light bulb that goes off.”