Manchester United's Class of 92 have had a difficult time breaking into management.
While Phil Neville and Ryan Giggs have eventually taken up international posts, Gary Neville and Paul Scholes endured a much more difficult time of it.
Neville's infamous stint at Valencia, which included a 7-0 drubbing by Barcelona, saw him sacked within four months.
Scholes fared even worse at Oldham, a job he left last month after just 31 days and seven games in charge.
Neither should really be judged on their apparent failures at those clubs.
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Valencia have had 12 managers in seven years, while Scholes alleges that he was made false promises before taking over at his boyhood side.
It initially seemed a match made in heaven. The club's owner gave him his "100% backing", as well as a one-and-a-half-year deal.
Oldham were 14th in the table in the midst of a campaign that could have gone either way, poised nine points off the play-offs and 14 above the relegation zone.
However, when the 44-year-old arrived, he was left disappointed. Scholes explained on BT Sport's Premier League Tonight:
"I heard so many stories, I knew it wouldn't be an ideal job. I knew there was a lot of work to do.
"The facilities weren't great but again, I knew that [but] it wasn't something I waked into thinking, 'if the weather's bad, where am I going to be training the day after, can I ring Nicky [Butt] at United or try and get me a training pitch?'
"All of those things were going on, there was no hot water at times, they were ripping coffee machines out, the groundsman was coming 'we need money to do this, we need money to do that'. I knew it was a little bit of a mess."
When pressed on why his side managed just one win in seven by host Jake Humphrey, Scholes quipped: "I weren't very good, was I?"
"For the first three weeks there was little bits of it, not so much 'leave him out, he can't play, don't play him, play the player I said', there was nothing like that in the first three weeks. There were subtle hints, of course there were, but I'm not stupid enough not to realise what they were trying to do.
"But in the last week, there were a couple of issues with a couple of players, experienced pros that I felt didn't deserve to be treated the way the club wanted to treat them and I just didn't need the hassle of that.
"Once I get told 'don't play him', that's when it's time to go. They [Oldham players] were so dedicated and I feel sorry for them having to be footballers under this conditions."
It could be a long time before we see Scholes in the dugout again.